What to Do About Abhorrent Beliefs in Religions?

by rabbifink on February 21, 2012 · 19 comments

Every religion has abhorrent beliefs. An abhorrent belief is a part of one’s religion that would offend an outsider. All religions have these beliefs. Whether they concern non-members of the religion, women, slavery, genocide or the afterlife, many religious beliefs are upsetting to members of other religions.

Historically, these beliefs were kept within the bounds of the religious group and no one was the wiser. By and large, people didn’t have access to religious texts and codes of other religions. There was little interaction between people of various religions. Abhorrent beliefs were safe.

But things have changed. The international community has become like a small village. We all know each other’s business. Television and the Internet have made us all virtual neighbors. Enemies used to be neighbors or neighboring territories. Now enemies can be anywhere in the world.

Last week, one abhorrent belief of Mormonism was exposed (again). I don’t mean to pick on Mormonism, we will get to Judaism soon. And while on the topic of Mormons, let’s not forget the comment made by a presidential candidate aide dismissing all Mormons as non-Christians. Anyway, the Church of Latter Day Saints has a practice of baptizing all sorts of people who are dead. They don’t deny it. In fact you can read several fascinating article on the LDS website about the practice. They base it on sources in the Old and New (sic) Testament and in their eyes it is a beautiful honor to the deceased. When it was discovered (again) that they were posthumously baptizing Holocaust victims, outrage ensued. Elie Wiesel and the Wiesenthal Center demanded that they stop and that they apologize. Somehow Mitt Romney was being asked to apologize as well.

I found myself conflicted. On one hand I have always had a distaste for baptism for the dead. It is the reason I won’t use a site like Ancestry.com which is owned by the Mormon Church and the data is mined for baptism purposes. I find the practice abhorrent. It really is a little twisted to think about baptizing people who were killed simply because they were Jews! On the other hand I also find it silly and meaningless. Why should it bother me if they say some magic words that in my opinion accomplish absolutely nothing? It’s a tough call. It’s certainly not as bad as Elie Wiesel thinks.

Either way, the issue is really what should the Mormon Church do about its abhorrent belief that they should baptize dead non-Mormons? They think they are doing a good and moral act. To outsiders it is offensive. What to do?

Closer to home, Judaism has its fair share of abhorrent beliefs. Most of them no longer apply. Most of them have either been reinterpreted or require circumstances that are not currently at play. Some people want to accelerate those circumstances and create the environment that would allow and require those abhorrent beliefs be put into practice.

Sometimes religious people have abhorrent beliefs or ideas that are not essential to their religion. They may think that these are religious rules, but they are not. These are social conventions that are more likely the result of years of persecution, insularity, and fear as opposed to drawn from religious texts. But the lines are rarely so clear. More recent texts are likely to mix the two and then provide sources for new abhorrent beliefs that are not intrinsic to the religion.

What does the orthodox Jew do about these beliefs?

There are two approaches that I know. The first is based on a famous thought experiment called the Euthyphro Dilemma. In short, the idea is that if God commands something it is intrinsically moral. Thus, the social conventions that may make a belief seem abhorrent are really false and true morality only exists in God’s commandments. This has appeal but it is a tough pill to swallow. Are we really comfortable with Divinely commanded genocide? I’d rather not have to make that choice. It also seems incongruous that God would create humans who would develop over time into beings whose sense of morality is at odds with God’s word.

The second approach is to interpret abhorrent beliefs in a way that makes them less abhorrent. This doesn’t always work, and could rankle the feathers of the more traditionalist among us, but when it works, it works well. For example, there is a commandment to hate (and kill) Amalek. This seems at odds with human perception of fairness and compassion. Over on Hirhurim, R’ Norman Lamm is quoted and I direct your attention there (Hirhurim) as his answer is not relevant to this discussion.

Which all leads to the most fascinating question of all: When these abhorrent beliefs are exposed or shared with outsiders and they make us look bad or old-fashioned, or immoral, or bigoted in the eyes of those outsiders is that a desecration of God’s Name?

Maimonides codifies several examples of kiddush and chillul Hashem in Chapter 5 of Yesodei HaTorah. None of them really concern the opinions of outsiders about our beliefs. They all concern how we act. There are times we must die for the sake of God’s commandments and there are other instances where our status as Jews or scholars requires us to act in a refined manner. Failure to do so is a chillul Hashem. The principle of chillul Hashem as it relates to how others think of our beliefs does not enter the conversation.

I think we can safely say that exposing what the Torah says cannot be considered a chillul Hashem.

However, this does not account for social conventions, prejudices, and anti-social ideas that emanate from insularity or superstition that are confused with religious fervor or beliefs. I think it is fair to say that exposing a non-essential abhorrent belief might be a chillul Hashem. That is unfortunately the inevitable result of the new global community. So what is the appropriate response when these secrets are revealed (as they were in Unorthodox)?

The solution is not to cry chillul Hashem and force the issue back into the dark hole from where it came. The solution is to eradicate non-essential abhorrent beliefs. There is little we can do about our essential beliefs that don’t jive with modern sensibilities. We have to hope that others recognize that every religion and even many non-religions have abhorrent beliefs and so long as they don’t cause any harm, they can be ignored. Much in the same way as I can ignore baptism of the dead. But if there are non-essential abhorrent beliefs in our community that can be changed or removed, I think it is wise and prudent to do all that we can to eliminate these items from our community.

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  • mo
    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      He makes me laugh. Thanks for the link.

      • mo


        He makes me laugh ”

        Because?

        • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

          I don’t know. Combination of the rambling, condescension, myopia, and sad logic? Maybe? :)

          • mo

            “  and sad logic ”

            Care to post a rebuttal?

            • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

              Honestly, not really. He didn’t even say anything to rebut. He just restates things so that they fit his opinion.

            • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

              Every answer he gives is “because Hashem wants it that way”. Okay fine. Now maybe he could explain why God would want something like that? And if it really is God’s will why doesn’t he have any slave?

  • mo
  • http://twitter.com/daniopp Daniopp

    Nothing abhorrent here. really. this isnt offensive in the least. this is as offensive as if someone decided that they were going to cast a spell on you to make you into a flying spaghetti monster. it has the same effect. which is to say, none.

  • Anonymous

    Nice post.  There is one point I disagree with.  Your definition of an abhorrent belief.  Just because someone is offended shouldn’t make it abhorrent.  To an outsider it may look offensive, but his lack of understanding may be the reason he finds it offensive.  For example, giving a child medicine.  An outsider sees a kid kicking and screaming as we try to get that horrible tasting medication down his throat without him gagging, choking, and throwing up the entire dose.  The outsider may think we are crazy and abusive to our child and is offended by such abuse, but really we are helping the child and there is nothing offensive in that action.  I think a more proper definition may be, a belief that is intended to be antagonistic i.e. baptizing the dead, or a belief that is offensive and has no rational, moral, or logical explanation (more like a superstition).  

    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      Fair enough. 

      By offensive, I meant “offensive to an average person with basic context”. Invariably this will be examples where Divine “morality” seems at odds with human morality.

  • Anonymous

    To me the most abhorrent part of Judaism is that non-dairy, non-soy
    “whitener” that you have to use on Passover. Let’s hope Jew-haters don’t
    learn about it.

    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      Another candidate for comment of the year.

  • http://twitter.com/rabbijason Rabbi Jason Miller

    There’s an entire movement that is hell bent on having the non-dairy “whitener” become the default creamer for Jews’ coffee on a year round basis (not just Passover). They’re calling themselves the Whitener Supremacist Movement. White(ner) Power!

  • ahg

    I think the Torah commandments that exist but have no bearing on life today like genocide and slavery, pale in comparison to those that still affect us today.   Perhaps Judaism’s most “Abhorrent Belief” in our day is women’s disadvantaged position in the halachic framework, and I am not talking about getting an aliya or some other synagogue ritual.  The immutable fact that the Torah tells us
    וְכָתַב לָהּ סֵפֶר כְּרִיתֻת וְנָתַן בְּיָדָהּ, וְשִׁלְּחָהּ מִבֵּיתוֹ.
    A Jewish divorce requires the MAN to grant it to her [of his free will].
    He then sends her from HIS house.   So, in our day we continue to be plagues by the problem of agunot, chained women, and even in cases where the women is able to receive her divorce, it is often at the expense of submitting to her husbands extortion.      The fact that we have not been able to come up with a uniform approach of effectively overcoming this 21st century aberration in our day is a chillul hashem. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mordechai-Mendlowitz/100002072912345 Mordechai Mendlowitz

      Why don’t we simply remove it from the Torah or simply abolish marriage completely

      • ahg

        I don’t feel your remarks merit a response but so that no one will think I agree with you in anyway… here it is.   

        Removing a law from the Torah is not permitted under any circumstance.  However, that does not mean that there aren’t ways to be able to solve societal problems presented by them.   For example the Torah permits multiple wives, over 1000 years ago it was accepted as prohibited in the Ashkenzic world and today is nearly universally accepted among all Jews that they can only have one wife.

        To solve the Agunah problem, chazal permitted sending emissaries of the court to beat the daylights out of the husband until he stated that the get was being delivered of his own free will.  Do we call that coercion?   No, we call it showing him the light, that he really wants to do the right thing, so at the time he submits, he’s truly doing it of his free will.  (even as he stands there beaten to a bloody pulp).    If law enforcement officers in your local municipality used this technique to obtain a confession – and explained that the accused was really acting of his own free will once his evil inclination was subdued – would you give them a pass?   Would you expect any rational, thinking person to accept the validity of such a confession?   Of course not.  But, when chazal says it works, we accept it.   Their “brilliance” in offering this as an acceptable way of obtaining a get, through some “creative” logic was accepted because it solved a problem that needed solving. 

        Today, if you try to implement chzal’s remedy you’re going to create and chillul hashem and rightfully end up in jail.  In the USA we do not permit any group to take the law into their own hands like that or before you know it we’ll be justifying Islamic “honor” killings.

        So, it’s time for some new creative thinking.  Just like chazal expanded the definition of what “free will” meant in their day, so too we must look to see where we can use either secular law or stretch the limits of halacha in our day to solve this problem.   I think the Conservative movement gets credit with being the first in North America to tackle the problem with the inclusion of “The Lieberman Clause” about 60 years ago.  There seems to be evidence that Rabbi Soleveitchik agreed that this was halachic, but the Orthodox community never agreed to incorporate it.   The RCA, some thirty years later came up with a pre-nup agreement that hasn’t seen widespread use.   Finally about 6 years ago the RCA passed a resolution that “no rabbi should officiate at a wedding where a proper prenuptial agreement on get has not been executed”.  Look to any movement within Orthodoxy to the right of the RCA, and you don’t find solutions. 

        A pre-nup is hardly a radical change.  T’naim were an early pre-nup of a different kind.   It’s not like they even have to entertain more radical ideas like Kedushim with Tnai, Annulment by Bait Din, or anything that stretches tradition and might truly be deemed as “chadash”.   So, 60 years after the Conservative movement demonstrated that they were willing to tackle this problem, the Orthodox community still has no answer that’s applied with any kind of consistency and regularity.

        Why?   Why don’t rabbi’s today have the gonads to demand even the most feeble steps such as a pre-nup be taken to solve one of our major problems today?   Why do the so-called “Gedolim” on the right opine about all sorts of problems facing Judaism from the Internet to the LWMO positions but have not done anything to solve Agunot?

  • pointer

    James Caroll, in “Constantine’s Sword: The Church and the Jews” has a fascinating discussion on baptizing Holocaust victims from a Christian standpoint. 

    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      Thanks. I will check it out.

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