Orthoprax Jews and Orthoprax Christians

by rabbifink on April 16, 2010 · 6 comments

A Facebook friend, (Jewish Atheist), posted a really fascinating article on his Facebook profile.

The article is a Boston Globe piece and is called “The Unbelievers“. I recommend reading the entire article as this post will just highlight a few parts of the well researched article to illustrate some points of interest to this audience.

Lately, there’s been a lot of talk of Orthopraxy within the Orthodox Jewish world. See my post: The Real Orthoprax Issue. There are even some blogs dedicated to its theology (and challenging the traditional OJ theology). Interestingly, the Orthoprax people I know of (NOT Orthoprax by default) are lay people. Not Rabbis. True, they are very learned and could probably pass as rabbis, but they remain lay people. Though I wonder if there are “closet Orthoprax Rabbis”…

According to this article, there are significant clergy members of various Christian denominations that for all practical purposes are “Orthoprax Christians”. They value the rituals, the connection with others, the music, but they don’t believe their religion’s theology. They don’t believe in God.

When comparing ministers and Christianity with Rabbis and Judaism there is a marked difference. Almost all Orthodox Jews spend several years of Torah study. Many lay people in the OJ community are more learned than their Rabbis. The article led me to believe that it is highly unlikely that lay people in the Christian community would be “Orthoprax Christians” because they don’t know enough about the Bible and Christianity for the gaping holes, flaws and problems to bother them. But the educated class, the clergy, is susceptible to disbelief because they know what the problems are

Cynics have said that the reason for “Daas Toyrah” ousting rationalism and “Slifkinism” from the “mesorah” is to keep the public ignorant so that they won’t revolt against the rabbis. Perhaps there is some truth to that cynical belief. Ignorance will definitely keep people in line. It also shows is a complete lack of confidence in Torah.

Reading through the article I noticed little things that are virtually the exact ideas that Orthoprax Jews talk about. One idea is the “more benign forms of religion”. That is a religion without God. It takes the moral aspects of religion and the rituals but divorces them from divinity and yet brings people together. Another idea is the issue of who wrote the Bible. Orthodox Jews don’t usually struggle with this. But those who are aware of the issues, do.

In short, this article is not written about Jews. But it very likely could have been. It seems to me that there is nearly endless room for discussion about the questions it raises for us. I urge you to read the article and think about how it makes you feel.

The article made me feel confused about how I feel. How about you?

Related posts:

  1. The Real Orthoprax Issue
  2. The Orthoprax Rabbi Takes the J-Blogosphere By Storm
  3. Thoughts on Ami Magazine’s Orthoprax Article: The Impostors Among Us
  • http://twitter.com/MarkSoFla Mark

    Rabbi Fink – Lately, there’s been a lot of talk of Orthopraxy within the Orthodox Jewish world.

    To me, it looked more like a lot of name-calling that stopped short of “calling out” individuals. In other words, a part of the “frummer than thou” movement.

    Though I don’t disagree that there are plenty of people out there, of all religions, who practice without believing (or without fully believing).

    • http://finkorswim.com rabbifink

      Mark:

      With all due respect, there is an Orthoprax movement gaining traction. I am not talking about one or two articles here and there…

      • http://twitter.com/MarkSoFla Mark

        Who are the leaders of this movement? Where can we find more information about it? Are they really doing this “in public”? I mean, it’s probably bad for shidduchim! :-)

        • http://orthoprax.blogspot.com Orthoprax

          There are no leaders per se, since it is a grassroots movement that was actually quickened by the advent of the internet. It started on posting forums initially and now it exists largely on the blogosphere.

  • http://twitter.com/makeforyourself YC

    Mark
    I see Orthopraxy
    I also see a lot of stereotyping
    I think Rabbi Fink’s separating out the “by default” group does a lot toward the goal of avoiding: name calling , “calling out” and stereotyping. It is solution based.

    The Problem
    1) How do we help closet Orthoprax?
    In “The Unbelievers” they cannot even find each other.
    Is it easier to find Orthoprax if their entire life is programed (ie Jews)

    2) Education seems to be the problem and not the solution for many of the “The Unbelievers”

    It would be convenient to say we (Orthodox Jews) are different from “The Unbelievers”.

    But…

    I dont think the article gives us anything more than a quick glance at “The Unbelievers”
    It does not mention doubt, only believers and non-believers.
    Easier for someone to ask a question if they are NOT the Clergy

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