We took the family to Santa Monica Pier on Sunday and our six year old son proved to be smarter than a Supreme Court Justice!
It is so beautiful to walk along the beach and observe all the excitement along the boardwalk and pier. As always, we had a great time in Santa Monica.
For the last few years there has been a protest / exhibit just north of the pier. The protestors are against war in general, the Iraq war in specific and pretty much the entire defense budget of the United States.
They call it Arlington West and they have set up a faux graveyard in the sand representing the fallen soldiers in what they call a criminal war.
It can be quite powerful when you see it.
As we walked by the lines and lines of crosses on this occasion, my 6 year old son asks, “How do they know all the soldiers who died were Christian? If they were Jewish or Muslim or ‘nothing’ they probably wouldn’t want a cross.”
Excellent point kiddo! Score one for the six year old.
In fact you may have heard about this exact issue arising in the Supreme Court of the United States in Salazar v. Buono. The issue in the case is an eight-foot high cross that was erected as a memorial to fallen soldiers in foreign wars.
The case made recent headlines when Justice Scalia could not fathom that a non-Christian would perhaps be offended by a Christian symbol as a memorial for the dead. The exchange between Justice Scalia and ACLU lawyer Peter J. Eliasburg went something like this:
JUSTICE SCALIA: The cross doesn’t honor non-Christians who fought in the war? Is that — is that –
MR. ELIASBERG: I believe that’s actually correct.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Where does it say that?
MR. ELIASBERG: It doesn’t say that, but a cross is the predominant symbol of Christianity and it signifies that Jesus is the son of God and died to redeem mankind for our sins, and I believe that’s why the Jewish war veterans –
JUSTICE SCALIA: It’s erected as a war memorial. I assume it is erected in honor of all of the war dead. It’s the — the cross is the — is the most common symbol of — of — of the resting place of the dead, and it doesn’t seem to me — what would you have them erect? A cross — some conglomerate of a cross, a Star of David, and you know, a Moslem half moon and star?
MR. ELIASBERG: Well, Justice Scalia, if I may go to your first point. The cross is the most common symbol of the resting place of Christians. I have been in Jewish cemeteries. There is never a cross on a tombstone of a Jew. (Laughter.)
MR. ELIASBERG: So it is the most common symbol to honor Christians.
JUSTICE SCALIA: I don’t think you can leap from that to the conclusion that the only war dead that that cross honors are the Christian war dead. I think that’s an outrageous conclusion.
MR. ELIASBERG: Well, my — the point of my — point here is to say that there is a reason the Jewish war veterans came in and said we don’t feel honored by this cross. This cross can’t honor us because it is a religious symbol of another religion.
(Credit: Huffington Post)
DovBear posted about this last week (Impeach Scalia) click for discussion there.
What amazes me is how my 6 year old son can see something so patently obvious and yet Justice Scalia can’t seem to process the concept…
Incredible.
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Could law school be in Elijah jr.’s future? I’ll save him my supplements just in case
Lol. Ya never know.
He does like to argue with his parents a lot… (J/K)
*Eliyahu
sorry I spelled your name wrong lol
No biggie Kalvin.
Isn’t Elijah the English translation of Eliyahu?
sometimes things can be very simple and basic. yet a lawmaker like Scalia isn’t interested in the simplicity of the matter, but in the exact definition and determination. If there is nothing that legally defines it as christian, Scalia sees no reason it cannot represent Jews and Muslims as well, because he is only looking ta it from its legal aspects.
It shows you that you can’t just take anything out of its context and redefine it.
It shows you that you can’t just take anything out of its context and redefine it.
Are you serious?
It used to be argued that this country was Christian. You can read legal opinions where the issue is raised and decided as a matter of law that the country was Christian. However, this is no longer the case. The USA is not a Christian country AS A MATTER OF LAW and Christian symbols are not representative of the “country”.
That’s not redefining things out of their context, that is the law.
I have to wonder if maybe he (Scalia) was annoyed that someone was “baiting” him into making a declaration of a sort that would anger millions of Christians, and that this was the only way (being argumentative) he could think of getting out of that predicament?
In any case, what he said was foolish and he should apologize and clarify.
Jews have no right to live permanently in the U.S. anyway, according to the Torah. So who cares who the U.S. honors or not?
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My son, SPC Daniel Agami was killed in Iraq on 06/21/07 and the last request he made before his redeployment to Iraq in April of 2007, was that he be buried in a Jewish Cemetary. We have been to numerous dedications in Arlington, and you will see a sprinkle of Star of David headstones. They stand out, and when we visit, we seek them out and put a stone on top of them, even those from the earliest wars. Our son, will long be remembered as “GI Jew” and The Hebrew Hammer that he proudly bore on his rifle while on duty in Iraq. Check out http://www.JewsinGreen.com and you will see the number of Jewish soldiers recently killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. While we pray every Shabbos for our Israeli soldiers, we should be equally as dedicated in praying for our American Jewish Soldiers that are overseas dying by the hands of the same terrorist Arabs. No difference. I wish every Shul in America would understand this, in particular the Orthodox, Chabad, etc.
Just google, Daniel Agami. He was amazing and will be forever remembered by his family and friends for generations to come.
Thank you for sharing this important anecdote.
In our shul we do make a prayer for the United States Armed Forces. I see no reason this practice is not universal!